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In 1981, Obama travelled to Pakistan using his Indonesian passport. He was twenty years old at that time...
In 1981, Pakistan was under martial law, and did not allow citizens from the United States to enter the country...

If Obama could enter the country, he did it thanks to his Indonesian passport.
It means he maintained his Indonesian citizenship and failed to regain his American citizenship.
Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship. Had Obama regained his American citizenship, he would have been travelling on a United States passport.

I know that some of you are going to ask me : how can we be sure that Obama travelled to Pakistan ?

I will answer : simply, because he said that himself !

Last spring, at a fundraiser in San Francisco, Obama claimed he had more world experience than his rivals, Hillary Clinton and John McCain,  and introduced a new bit of biographical information.

"Foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain," Obama said.

"It's ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be Commander-in-Chief. Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world. This I know. When Senator Clinton brags 'I've met leaders from eighty countries' -- I know what those trips are like! I've been on them. You go from the airport to the embassy. There's a group of children who do native dance. You meet with the CIA station chief and the embassy and they give you a briefing. You go take a tour of a plant that [with] the assistance of USAID has started something. And then -- you go."

"You do that in eighty countries," Obama said, "You don't know those eighty countries. So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa --knowing the leaders is not important -- what I know is the people...I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college -- I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee."

So Obama made a college trip to Pakistan :

Apparently, according to the Obama campaign, In 1981 -- the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University -- Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. After that visit, Obama traveled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there. The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting
Hyderabad in Southern India.

(source : Jack Tapper : Obama college trip to Pakistan

It all sounds very innocent, "a college trip to Pakistan"...


First, it is not a college trip. It is his personal visit to Pakistan.
He stayed there for 3 weeks when the country was under turmoil.

Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).

Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.

Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone's family in 1981, was it ?

There would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981:

For instance, being educated in one of the religious schools is a reason to stay for 3 weeks in that country.
To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every "True Believer".

For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa.

Why Saudis go there ? It is for the religious education and training.
Muslims from West who had an inclination on the extreme religion visited there other than relatives.

What's strange is that Obama's own website FightTheSmears doesn't refute the widespread allegation that he entered Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.


Moreover, I find this trip to Pakistan by Obama to be much more interesting than his place of birth. It is very unlikely that Pakistan would have allowed entry to anyone traveling on an American passport during those tumultuous times. If Obama had instead entered Pakistan on an Indonesian passport as an Indonesian citizen his American citizenship would have been forfeited. I would sure like to get a look at Obama's U.S. passport records...

So, questions :
How does a "US citizen" travel to an area in the world in 1981 when it is offlimits (Fact) ?
 He was partially raised in Indonesia as a Muslim (Fact). Why is he so reluctant to provide information on his past, as a military member with a security clearance ?


Apart from these legitimate interrogations and doubts over the true reasons for Obama's trip to Pakistan, this story has legal implications :

First, it means the new president of the USA has the name Barry Soetoro and not Barack Obama. Obama has concealed his real identity.He was called Barry Soetoro, even when he was twenty years old. So we now understand why he has refused to release his college records : it must be written on them, that he was Barry Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen.

Secondly, it means American voters elected a man who has hidden the fact he has a dual citizenship, and maybe a triple one : British ; Indonesian ; and American.
Is it legal ? Can such a man be elected POTUS ? I must admit I cannot answer this question...




Although it is complex, let's try to sum the whole thing up once again :
1) Soetoro is the name on Obama’s Birth Certificate (BC) because a new BC was issued when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, his step-father. His original BC, which we assume was issued for Barack Hussein Obama at birth, would have been sealed at the time of the adoption.

2) Barry Soetoro probably acquired Indonesian citizenship in approximately 1965-1966, and may still hold it. He possibly changed his legal name back to Barack Hussein Obama as an older child, teenager, or adult, possibly never did - but even if he did, this procedure would not result in a change to the BC. (If he never legally changed his name back, I imagine his current name on the Presidential ballot would be invalid.)


3) The Birth Certificate published by Obama on his campaign website (still there, by the way) and distributed to the media was forged because the real BC on file is in the name Soetoro, an identity he apparently wanted to hide from the American people.

4) Prior to 2007, Indonesian law did not permit dual citizenship. Thus, if Obama actively kept his Indonesian citizenship, his US citizenship could be challenged. I suspect that Obama may have dumped his Indonesian citizenship at some point along the way, to advance his political career. But I would not be shocked if he still holds it. This question, however, should not overshadow the serious problem of hiding his Indonesian identity from the electorate…..

 What else is he hiding?

Maybe you could have a look at that :


How can a man who lied to a State Supreme Court, in an official document, have been elected to the presidency ?


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